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August 10, 2004

Chapter 8. The dead hand of modern democracy: Lessons for emergent post-modern democrats

8. The dead hand of modern democracy: Lessons for emergent post-modern democrats by Ken White

Posted by Jon Lebkowsky at August 10, 2004 8:42 PM


Hey, found this site through (I think -- who can remember?) Boing Boing, and it looks great so far. I was wondering, though, what the copyright situation might be -- there's no cover or front matter posted (yet?) and I don't see any other indication that this is under a Creative Commons, GPL-like, Open Content, or some other license, and yet you're clearly inviting myself and others to download your work. Can we distribute the files freely? Create derivative works? Edit? I hate to be left to assume...

Posted by: Dustin at August 11, 2004 10:51 AM

Agreed with Dustin, you should get the copyright info up and but quick. Also, it would be helpful if each blog entry per chapter could include *some* text besides the link to the pdf file, even a paragraph or two would be good. (Also, you have a link to sign into TypeKey on this page, but you haven't enabled TypeKey comments, so that fails.)

Posted by: Andrew at August 11, 2004 3:32 PM

Thanks! We wanted to get this up FAST, so we don't even have all the chapters up yet. We're publishing under a Creative Commons license, and yes, we need to get that up... thanks!

Posted by: Jon Lebkowsky at August 11, 2004 5:19 PM

I guess I just find TypeKey unduly restrictive - I'm not going to trot out the Passport Jr. shibboleth again (oops, I guess I just did), but I'm not comfortable with its deployment on a site called "Extreme Democracy."

So it goes.

Posted by: Adam at August 12, 2004 3:50 AM

You guys should post more about where to buy the book ... !

Posted by: Scott Fitchet at August 12, 2004 4:51 AM

Scott -- we will after the election, when we are going to be publishing a much-updated version with a major press. Thanks!

Adam -- Alas, democracy requires some governance and all that our use of TypeKey accomplishes is a slight delay in the publication of comments so that we can review them for spam. If spam weren't such a problem, this wouldn't be necessary, but if you want to post without any delay you do have the option of using TypeKey. It is *not required* to post, so in the face of the abuse of blogs by spammers this seems a good option for those trying to keep the debate focused on a topic.

Posted by: Mitch Ratcliffe at August 12, 2004 7:07 AM

I found Chapter 8 by Ken White a brilliant "positioning" plaftorm for the exploration of Extreme Decmocracy. I think it should be required reading as context for the entirety of the book.

Dave Davison

Posted by: dave davison at October 7, 2004 12:41 AM

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